Android 5 offers two encryption features:

  1. Encrypt the device (phone)

  2. Encrypt the external micro SD card

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I understand the benefit of 2.: if someone takes my micro SD out and wants to use it on another phone/computer, he won't be able to see my personal files.

But I don't see the the benefit of 1. over a simple password screen lock: nobody can take the internal memory of my phone out of the phone itself. So what is the advantage of 1. over a simple screen lock with password + SIM code lock?

In which precise situation would a thief be defeated by an encrypted device whereas he wouldn't be with a standard screen lock with password? (I'm not speaking about external micro SD for which I already understand the benefit of encryption)

To be more precise: is there a way for a thief of a phone with password screen lock but no device encryption to access the phone's internal data (let's say he doesn't know the password / cannot crack it).

  • As far as I'm aware, if you plug the phone into a computer, then you can read at least parts of the internal memory. You don't even need the screen to work, nevermind have the lock-code. (It is possible that I'm wrong; maybe someone can verify?)
    – Sam OT
    Aug 9, 2017 at 17:26
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    "nobody can take the internal memory of my phone out of the phone itself" - I think you're underestimating people's ability to take things out of other things. Aug 9, 2017 at 18:15
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    @SamT Vary between models. Some happily provide MTP even when locked, other require unlock before providing MTP.
    – Martheen
    Aug 10, 2017 at 5:33
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    @Martheen Thanks for the clarification. Still, it does show that with some models the screen lock gives no protection to this!
    – Sam OT
    Aug 10, 2017 at 8:06
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over a simple password screen lock: nobody can take the internal memory of my phone out of the phone itself. So what is the advantage of 1. over a simple screen lock with password + SIM code lock?

Understand that encryption is used to protect the data from unauthorized access (device misplaced or lost or alike situations). If you are sure that the device would not fall into wrong hands ever, you don't need the encryption.

As for the quoted text: some devices have their bootloader unlocked; some others don't even have this concept (such as MTK devices) in which case a custom recovery (a bare-bone OS) can be loaded into the Android device which would grant complete unrestricted access to your data if it was not encrypted.

Alternatively, if a PC has access to your device through ADB (think of Android versions prior to JB) than your data is available to that as well.

Some might even go as far as taking out the emmc or the type of storage in your SoC and use it somewhere else. What would your screen lock do if Android is not booted into? Nothing!

In which precise situation would a thief be defeated by an encrypted device whereas he wouldn't be with a standard screen lock with password?

A custom recovery now cannot gives access to your data since it remains encrypted. The thief however can brute force the encrypted partition. Depending upon the power of the machine(s) they've got they may be able to find the key to decrypt the data.

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    Thanks. To be more specific, I added this to the question: is there a way for a thief of a phone with password screen lock but no device encryption to access the phone's internal data (let's say he doesn't know the password / cannot crack it).
    – Basj
    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:20
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    Even NSA can't effectively brute-force a modern encryption. Remember the case where FBI asked Apple to unlock a gunner's iPhone 5C last year?
    – iBug
    Aug 9, 2017 at 14:05
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    @Basj - yes, very easily. They can exactly "take the internal memory of my phone out of the phone itself" and read it directly, or as this answer says, load their own OS onto the phone and read your data via that.
    – OrangeDog
    Aug 9, 2017 at 16:54
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    @jamesqf: The NSA has NSA-like capability. Not energy-of-a-million-galaxies-compressed-into-a-cubic-cm godlike capability. There is no brute-forcing of crypto. Period. Crypto that gets broken is crypto that was misused, not that was brute forced. Aug 10, 2017 at 1:47
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    @Firelord. I wasn't saying that you were mistaken. I was saying that anyone who is sure that their device would not fall into the wrong hands ever is mistaken. Anyone who needs convincing of that fact has clearly never read a newspaper or... you know... existed in the real world.
    – Dancrumb
    Aug 10, 2017 at 20:30

nobody can take the internal memory of my phone out of the phone itself

While taking out your phone's internal storage out is harder than the SD card, it's definitely not impossible. Rework stations used to extract chips from circuit boards may be expensive, but not outrageously so (around $1000), and can be rented in many electronic repair shops for tens of $ an hour.

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If you have a bunch of stolen phones you've decided to destroy in hopes to get sensitive data (older models you won't be selling anyway), it will cost you a couple of bucks per phone to get the flash chip out.

Reading the flash IC is even easier. Check out this flash reader, which can be bought for under $300 (and about 10 times cheaper on e-bay or aliexpress):

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BGA versions of such flash readers are available as well. One of the side-effects of flash memory becoming so inexpensive and omnipresent is a very high level of standardization, to the point where chips from different manufacturers not only have the same physical size and pinout, but also support the same command set.

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    Thanks for this interesting answer. However I think that if A="Electronic engineer able to use these machines" B="Thief of phones", P(A | B) = 0,000001.
    – Basj
    Aug 10, 2017 at 7:57
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    @Basj they don't need to be the same person. Similarly the details of stolen credit cards are sold to those with the kit to clone them.
    – Chris H
    Aug 10, 2017 at 9:46
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    @Basj Those machines are not that hard to use, I've seen printers which are trickier to set up and operate right. Besides, many repair shops will just take the PCBs you give them and a small sum of money and will give the desoldered chips back to you. Using a flash reader is similar to ripping a CD and extracting files from the ISO image. Aug 10, 2017 at 12:53
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    @Basj, I found this picture from an iPhone 7 teardown that shows the 128GB Flash (highlighted in red). Definitely a lot bigger than you are imagining. Toshiba's site has it at 12mm x 20mm.
    – mikeazo
    Aug 10, 2017 at 17:35
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    If you have a pile of phones and you're just looking for things (i.e. not some terrorists' phone who has a nuclear bomb somewhere so you can't afford to mess up), a $20 heat gun and a pair of tweezers is all you need to pull off some flash chips.
    – Nick T
    Aug 10, 2017 at 19:21

You are right that there is no advantage of encryption if your device screen lock password can be cracked or guessed by an intruder. The moment he / she does that , there is no security offered by device encryption - Physical possession is ownership and you are compromised

Reason behind this is that Android didn't separately use a password for Disk encryption and lock screen. Lock screen is a part of encryption process. This is a security concern that seems to be overlooked in favour of making life easy for an average user

From Android Security Internals: An In-Depth Guide to Android's Security :

Android doesn’t have a dedicated setting to manage the encryption pass- word after the device is encrypted, and changing the screen lock password or PIN will also silently change the device encryption password. This is most probably a usability-driven decision: most users would be confused by having to remember and enter two different passwords at different times and would probably quickly forget the less frequently used, and possibly more complex, disk encryption password. While this design is good for usability, it effectively forces users to use a simple disk encryption password, because they have to enter it each time they unlock the device, usually dozens of times a day. No one wants to enter a complex password that many times, and thus most users opt for a simple numeric PIN (unless a device policy requires otherwise)

If you want to keep the encryption password separate from the lock screen password you can use this app cryptfs password developed by the same person whose text has been quoted above


In response to the edit in question, you are reasonably secure if a thief cannot crack or guess your password. But I understand that there are methods available for a sophisticated thief who is technically advanced to compromise your data security (some have been hinted by Firelord's answer )

  • Thanks. To be more precise: is there a way for a thief of a phone with password screen lock but no device encryption to access my phone internal data? (let's say he doesn't know the password).
    – Basj
    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:13
  • If he doesn't know the device lockscreen password, you are secure as long as he is unable to guess our crack it. BUT, there are other sophisticated methods I believe to enter into your device , which are more for a sophisticated thief who has the technical skills and resources and knows that there is valuable information inside the device which he wants to get at. Some of these have been covered by Firelord in his answer.My answer is for an average user Vs average intruder and the OS you specified in question//
    – beeshyams
    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:22
  • If you really have vital information, smartphone is not a good place to store - that could be asked in a separate question as there are other means to protect such information to a greater degree
    – beeshyams
    Aug 9, 2017 at 9:23

over a simple password screen lock: nobody can take the internal memory of my phone out of the phone itself...

They don't need to. There's literally YouTube videos about how to do this. Any average person with dedication could do this. Any thief that's made it their life work will thank you for not encrypting your phone, because it'll reduce their effort to mere "minutes" instead of "hours".

We're not living in the Stone Age. This is the age of prolific technology everywhere. If you're not using full drive encryption on your phone, laptop, etc, then your data is very easily accessible. Yes, there is a minor performance penalty for encrypting your phone, and some minor inconvenience, but using encryption is a major inconvenience to those that might gain access to your phone for a short period of time, like an hour or even overnight.

While some critical information is encrypted (typically passwords, PINs, and the like), most of your data is opaque, and can be used to commit all sorts of Bad Things™ with that data. By using full device encryption and a secure password, you avoid being a casual victim.

No security is absolutely perfect, but using a PIN instead of encryption is only protecting the "front door" of your system. Many phones can be accessed through back doors, such as SSH servers, safe mode kernels, and more. Many devices simply do not get security "right." Full device encryption helps bridge that gap in security.

There are still some risky, but theoretically successful attacks you can do against encryption, but those are still outside the reach of casual thieves. Phones without encryption, however, can be broken in by anyone that actually bothers to get a hold of your phone with the intent to get your data. Phones with encryption are usually only good for one thing: reselling on the black market. In many cases, your data is far more valuable than the device itself.


Why encrypt the device?

The main and ultimate reason is for the safety of your personal data. Even if it's not immortal, it can protect you against most "garage workshop" level of intrusion.

First, Physical possession is ownership is wrong. What's the intention for a lock screen (with password prompt)? Yes, it's to prevent unauthorized normal access to a device (originally computer). However, as the age goes, people have learnt to bypass the lock screen by booting into another separate operating system and then they'll gain access to everything. The intrusion technology has evolved by a lot ever since. Does the computer refuse to boot into an alternative system? No problem. Take the drive and grab another computer.

That's the origin of data encryption. When a simple password, there's hardly any difficulty to bypass the protection. If any datum is encrypted, it won't be accessible without the correct key. With a good encryption algorithm, brute-force attack is confidently impratical. No one wants to crack some data for tens of years. It has helped a lot with data security.

Encryption is intended as an add-on protection. In other words, it's not a poka-yoke (aka foolproof). If someone keeps on telling others his lockscreen password, or he hasn't set a LS PW at all, the encryption can do... pretty nothing. When you meet an extremely malicious guy, he can steal your phone and pick off the storage chip, ano use another device to extract data. In that case nothing is effective except physical encryption.

The downsides are

  • primarily, performance degradation
  • encryption key gets messed up (rare case but...)

Why not encryption? Don't you store very private photos that you don't want to leak?

Personally, I don't. Firelord made it right.

If you are sure that the device would never fall into wrong hands, you don't need the encryption.

  • Add-on protection? Doesn't sound correct.
    – ferit
    Aug 11, 2017 at 5:11

Well actually... Although it might seem like your data is safe without encryption and with a screen password, the reality is that it's vulnerable to root based exploits.

The device is compromised in the sense that it is accessible via adb or a USB exploit.

With full device encryption, the data is completely impossible to get to as the screen lock is required at start up.

What this means basically, is that if you have FDE your data is inaccessible without the password while without it, your data is accessible to a smart hacker.


No password/lock/pincode implemented without encryption can protect your data when attacker has physical access to device. Because there is always (yes always) a way to alter these locks. But when there is encryption, altering doesn't work because data remains scrambled until password is found. (Or cipher cracked, but this is very very unlikely to happen when cipher is strong)

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    Thanks. Can you give an example of way to alter these locks? (say, for an average thief, who doesn't have FBI techniques nor PhD in microelectronics ;))
    – Basj
    Aug 10, 2017 at 8:01
  • Soft resetting, for example. Works on Samsung Galaxy S2, S3, S4, S5, Note2, and Note3.
    – ferit
    Aug 10, 2017 at 10:12
  • How does this work?
    – Basj
    Aug 10, 2017 at 10:19
  • You can google it. Explaining every detail about resetting smartphone would be too broad for this question, I think.
    – ferit
    Aug 10, 2017 at 10:35
  • I also see others answers contain examples for this too.
    – ferit
    Aug 11, 2017 at 5:13

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